Just bring the money home. Wash your hands before you touch anything I’m going to eat. I don’t care if the damn pre-cut lettuce says “triple washed”, wash it before you put it in a salad you expect me to eat. Stuff like that.

Just out of curiosity, NK: Are you Muslim?

I did follow up with a post that said that I most definitely wanted a woman to speak her mind. In fact, I would never call a woman a nag for that. However, there is a fine line between saying what you want, and yammering on and on

Just out of curiousity, NK: Are you Muslim?

No. Just very fastidious in the kitchen. And after seventeen years of marriage and a daughter to raise very thankful that that’s about as major an argument as my wife and I have these days.

If I could get trackbacks to work on blogger.com I would. Latest post in my blog is entitled “Men and Women”.

But wait! There’s more…
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I figured out long ago that men’s lives exist around themselves first, then maybe others. Women’s lives exist around everyone else in their lives, and themselves last. This is mostly true, but not in all cases…there are exceptions to every rule.
After five marriages (I have a huge learning curve) I have decided that as much as I love my husband, he is the last man I will ever have in my home. Alone I would have only half of the dirty work, and I already do the yard work, and home repairs. I am finally tired of taking care of everyone else (although with elderly family, and my husband’s illness I will have several more years to go), and would like to take care of JUST ME.
I guess I have been married five times, because I just couldn’t believe that most all men are the same. Their needs first if they can help it.
I truely envy those women who have found those few men who actually pitch in and work together on all the chores that none of us want to do, and women usually end up doing.
So I guess I believe that women want to take care of others, and in return be taken care of…
…..about as possible as world peace, huh?

The manual trackback is giving me an error.

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Huh…and I had the exact opposite experience. I did the cooking, most of the hard cleaning (dusting, vacuuming, washing the floors, windows, yard work, snow shoveling, etc.). She would complain when I didn’t help her with the laundry or pick up the clutter. I always figured that sharing the workload meant, well, sharing.

To be clear, I sit to pee, so the seat is NEVER left up (and I have taught my two sons to do the same), and there is none of that “buildup” to clean around the toilet. I am a great cook, I can iron, sew, hang curtains, etc. I just have no clue what women want.

I don’t think that men who are willing to shoulder half or more of the load are unusual at all…I think there are a lot more of us than you might think, Sue.

Forgive me if I sound a bit sexist here – this is honestly my opinion and is completely unvarnished, but it isn’t meant to be prejudicial (even though it’s likely going to come out that way…oh well).

In my admittedly biased opinion, a large part of the dynamic these days between men and women, both in & out of the home is due to what the feminist movement has become within the last forty years. The original goals of feminism are laudable; equality, suffrage, redefining the “traditional” roles in parenting and marriage, and a complete rewrite of the role of women in the workplace. All of these things are good, and I applaud them.

The problem, though, is that feminism has changed a lot in the last forty years. Instead of demanding equality and all of the other things that the womens’ rights movement stood for in the beginning, we now have women insisting that they are better than men, in essence going from “feminism” to “feminine supremacy”, or in other words full circle. The ones that insist the loudest about a ludicrous “Patriarchy” running everything (and lemme tell you, if the “Patriarchy” has actually accomplished all of the things that some feminists claim, then I’d say my dues were well spent. h/t Ace) are the ones intent on setting up a Matriarchy in its place.

The problem, though, is that men see this happening. Women have done an excellent job at redefining their own roles in the world, without making any allowance for men to accomodate that or redefine our own. This has led to some very strange dichotomies between where we feel our roles in the world to be, and where everybody else sees us.

Think about it for a moment. When was the last time you watched any popular evening entertainment where the principal male lead was anything other than a lovable, bumbling loser that is at best tolerated by his ultracapable wife? This kind of stereotype permeates our culture – men have no clue, men never help around the home, men don’t want to do this or that, etc etc ad nauseum.

I don’t know about you, but I find that deeply offensive.

It’s gotten to the point now where this country’s educational system and youth groups have a drastic shortage of men willing to work within those roles, because on some level we’re afraid that a desire to work with children will translate into an accusation of molestation or pederasty. While I’ll admit that there are pedophiles out there, every man who loves children is not a pedophile any more than every man with intact “equipment” is a rapist. There have been numerous articles and studies on this, but I’m writing from work & don’t have time to research it properly. I’m reminded, though, of a story of a man from England who was actually placed in jail for waving to his daughter on the schoolbus after he’d been accused of molesting her by a vindictive and lying ex-wife.

I think I’ll actually put a blog post up about this at some point this weekend, Kate, because you’ve now got me thinking about it. (I know I haven’t updated in ages, but you would not BELIEVE the summer I’ve had….)

Steve says “To be clear, I sit to pee”

To be clear, I drink a lot of water. Does sitting really help?

To Will: Huh?

I guess I’m in the small minority. I did ask my husband last night (because he’s never called me a nag, but that doesn’t mean I don’t)… he assured me that I don’t nag.

He does some stuff around the house, I do other stuff. It seems to work out okay. We don’t always agree on everything but on the whole we do manage to compromise without problems.

Either I’m very lucky or we’re both easy going people.

  I knew that this could not be easily treated in just one post. Kate asked me what men want. I pondered it and came up with a reasonable run at it in this post. She then escalates the discussion inthis post. Her synopsis of some of my post is: Males also want women to pretty much make life easier on you by doing all of the dirty work. At first blush, that may sound a bit harsh. True, in a way, but harsh. I

See, I’ve had no doubt too many relationships. Most pretty good ones.

But the amount of time I spend saying “But you didn’t SAY that. In fact you SAID the opposite.” and hearing “But you’re supposed to know what that means.”

really defies all logic. I can’t claim it’s a representative sample (as I almost certainly don’t date in a pool that could be called statistically median.) But god DAMN is it getting old.

I have no doubt I do it. I know that in my family my father’s big on that. He thinks he says things he imagines himself saying. It’s gotten to a point where I can see the look on his face when he’s “rehearsing” what he’d like to say before thinking better of it.

Oh yeah, another thing: wg++

electirc venom

Hey all, Long time no write I know but I have been tied up figuratively for more than a couple of weeks. What brings me out of hibernation isthis post at Electric Venomabout the perception of men that women want them to be able to read their minds. Like every guy, I have felt that way at one point or another. I’m not going to go there right now, but I would like to talk about how a guy, namely me would rather go

I want one thing.

Honesty.