Comments on: Honor Killings In Turkey

By: Sharleen Mondal

Sharleen Mondal — Wed, 19 May 2004 20:41:24 +0000

Muphibious–good point. There has often been tension between Muslim feminists/Third World or subaltern feminisms and Western (particularly second wave) feminists. Part of the issue is that the concerns are just different; part of the issue is that to some of us living in the U.S., it’s too easy to let it be someone else’s problem.

The question of universal values is interesting–some folks in cultural studies (long criticized by the Right for “moral relativism”) are starting to assert that there are indeed universals–one of them being women’s rights. (The question of what comprises “women’s rights” remains hotly contested.)

By: muphibious

muphibious — Wed, 19 May 2004 19:34:02 +0000

Western universities are training an army of feminists in their university women’s studies departments. It is past time to put that army to good use. Send them to the places where women and girls are being slaughtered, let this army earn its keep. Or did they think they could rest on their mothers’ laurels, taking sinecured positions in countries where the battle is as good as won?

By: Dread

Dread — Wed, 19 May 2004 15:16:50 +0000

I always find it difficult to impress upon other societies our values and beliefs, but this is truly barbarism. I saw the 60 Minutes piece as well, and thought one gentleman summed it up accurately when Ed asked him if we have the right to impress our values upon other societies. His reply was

“These are not our values, the are civilization’s values, universal values.”

By: Little Miss Attila

Little Miss Attila — Wed, 19 May 2004 08:05:24 +0000

No Honor Here
Venomous Kate discusses a practice that makes me see red, every time: Even so, “honor killings” are believed to be on the rise in Turkey as rural Kurds immigrate to the cities where their daughters, previously sheltered from objectionable lifestyles,…

By: ::a::

::a:: — Wed, 19 May 2004 07:28:29 +0000

It amazes me that this kind of thinking actually happens in any of today’s societies. I can’t imagine what it must be like to suffer through this.

By: mlah

mlah — Wed, 19 May 2004 03:21:20 +0000

i met a jordanian princess today. she’s a bit of a feminist too. as feminist as you can be in the middle east. don’t know how she is working against honor killings but you can bet she is. and yeah, it shocks me too.

By: Randy

Randy — Wed, 19 May 2004 00:08:23 +0000

That’s horrible! I don’t understand. Thanks for enligtening me and I am going to link to your article right now!

By: Aaron’s Rantblog, aka Aaron the Liberal Slayer » Happy Jerusalem Day

Aaron’s Rantblog, aka Aaron the Liberal Slayer » Happy Jerusalem Day — Tue, 18 May 2004 23:42:50 +0000

[...] is roughly a gallon. Enough to kill thousands of people under the right conditions. From Venemous Kate: “Honor killings” continue to make the news on a regular basis as the Wes [...]

By: Sharleen Mondal

Sharleen Mondal — Tue, 18 May 2004 23:16:16 +0000

Understood–and posting about it is important. On the other side of the coin, Islamic feminists have been writing about this and speaking out about it for some time–critique from the outside coupled with critique from within is crucial to addressing the issue. I’ve seen some of your other posts about this topic and am always interested in the links you provide.

By: Captain's Quarters

Captain's Quarters — Tue, 18 May 2004 23:11:31 +0000

Link Love, The Quarter-Million Hit Version
I noticed yesterday that the hit counter finally tripped 250,000 visitors sometime in the afternoon — and I wanted to thank everyone again who makes Captain’s Quarters a regular read. When I started the blog less than eight months ago,…